Маурисио Почетино е треньорът, който изведе Тотнъм сред топ отборите, сред елита – както във Висшата лига, така и в Европа. Спокойно можем да твърдим последно след последните два мача на „шпорите“ в Шампионската лига, в които поставиха на колене настоящия носител на трофея Реал (Мадрид).
Вече има и амбиция и за нещо повече. Почетино дори си пожела да повтори мача с Реал (Мадрид) на финала в Киев.
– Мнозина откриха Тотнъм след първия мач с Реал (Мадрид) на „Бернабеу“.
– Не е важно само да се печелят мачове. Важно е и да се правят добри мачове срещу отбори като Реал (Мадрид), който според мен е най-добрият отбор в света. Спечели последните две Шампионски лиги и се изправяме срещу тях в техния турнир. Ние сме млад отбор, който вече натрупа опит в този турнир, и да се справим добре срещу Реал (Мадрид) подчертава работата на всеки един в тима.
– След победата срещу Ливърпул изглеждаше, че отборът вече е усетил пулса на мачовете на „Уембли“ (където Тотнъм домакинства през този сезон) , но след това дойде загубата от Уест Хем за Купата на Лигата.
– Важно е да печелим мачове на „Уембли“, да покажем, че отборът се чувства удобно и публиката да си даде сметка, че можем да постигнем значими неща на „Уембли“. За това помогна победата срещу Ливърпул, но не и загубата от Уест Хем. Цялата тази енергия обаче помага, за да може отборът да се представя по-добре.
– Толкова ли е различно да се играе на „Уембли“ в сравнение с „Уайт Харт Лейн“?
– Винаги, когато се преместиш от място, където се чувстваш толкова комфортно и то след толкова много години, се чувстваш странно. Да, има известно противоречие и неувереност има и още други такива примери в миналото с други отбори, които е трябвало да построят стадиони и се е налагало да играят на различни места. Когато се преместиш на новото място, не се чувстваш толкова удобно, колкото у дома. Нуждаеш се от време, за да създадеш новия си дом. Да, това преместване влияе.
– Треньорите се оценяват по резултатите, нали?
– Да, така е. Кой е най-добрият пилот във Формула 1? Този, който побеждава? Този, който има най-добрата кола? Говорим за оплакванията на Фернандо Алонсо, който е добър, но му е много трудно. Тук е същото. Трябва всичко да се оценява според обстоятелствата, според това какво притежава всеки един и също така според проекта, с който си се захванал и характеристиките на клуба, в който си. Не може да се мери с един аршин. Хамилтън е по-добър? Разбира се, защото побеждава, но ако на Алонсо дадем същата кола и той също ще побеждава. Не искам да кажа, че в друг отбор, с други играчи…
Живеем в общество, което гледа резултатите и е лесно да се качиш на печелившата кола. Има много други треньори, които не печелят, но за мен са много успешни.
– Но Почетино с Макларън се състезава срещу Мерцедес, Ферари и Ред Бул.
– Не искам да кажа, че Тотнъм е такъв или онакъв отбор. Искам да кажа, че качествата на треньорските щабове могат да се сравняват и измерват само ако имате 20 еднакви коли с едвакви мотори и гуми. Тогава ще можем да ги сравняваме. Във футбола това е много трудно. Обстоятелствата във всеки клуб са различни, предизвикателствата са различни. И успехът се мери под различна форма. Най-добре е да се наслаждаваш и ние точно това правим – побеждавайки, а понякога не.
– Година след година Тотнъм е в борбата и се съревновава, без да се отказва.
– Това е най-важното. Когато пристигнахме в този клуб, това което се опитахме е да скъсим дистанцията с отборите от топ 4 и вярвам, че през втория сезон успяхме. На третия задържахме това ниво, а на четвъртия вече бяхме на позиция да направим опит да спечелим Висшата лига. Това вече е нещо важно. След това има един куп обстоятелства и малко късмет, които ти помагат да спечелиш или не. Конкурентен отбор сме и всяка година правим по една малка крачка напред.
– Радвате ли се на Висшата лига?
– Стараем се да го правим. Да се радваме, да се състезаваме с друг тип проекти и други инструменти. Демонстрираме, че може да се борим по различен начин от останалите.
– Изнервяте ли се, когато всяко лято съперниците ви харчат по 200 милиона за трансфери?
– Не. Трудно е да се купи успех с пари, но в някои случаи те помагат да се приближиш до успеха. Тотнъм притежава философия, определена структура и начертан път, който следваме и развиваме по много стабилен начин. Завършвайки базата, новия стадион, ще бъде завършен и отборът. Дано проектите бъдат завършени, както и новият стадион, и по този начин да имаме потенциала да печелим титли, каквато е и целта на президента, на играчите и на нас треньорите.
– Как е възможно да се задържат играчи като Хари Кейн или Деле Али, когато другите клубове им предлагат много повече пари?
– Във футбола има някои неща, които са трудни за разбиране. Усещането, което се е създало в този клуб, усещането за принадлежност, то прави по-сложно това футболистите да поискат да си тръгнат от тук. Във футбола всичко се мени от днес за утре. Надяваме се да могат да останат тук дълго време, да можем да ги използваме като важни играчи в състава, да можем да включваме и нови играчи, които биха помогнали на отбора. Целта е Тотнъм да бъде в състояние да може да спечели титлата на Англия и Шампионската лига.
– И треньорският екип. Как ще продължи?
– Имаме добри взаимоотношение с президента и ръководството. Не искам да кажа, че нямаме никакви различия. Във всички отношения винаги съществуват различни гледни точки. От първия ден ни показаха уважение и това има голяма стойност, особено когато се налага да се вземат важни решения. Да работиш тук е много лесно, когато успееш да извоюваш това доверие.
– Но в съвременния футбол лесно изгаряш.
– Да, истина е, че не е лесно да се задържиш на едно място за дълго време и това постоянно го виждаме тук в Англия. Всичко зависи от човешките взаимоотношения, от отношенията с президента, с екипа, с клуба, с школата… Всичко това обаче помага да останеш мотивиран и с желание да вървиш напред. Когато човешките отношения започнат да се рушат или да не функционират по адекватен начин, тогава се къса нишката и вече зависиш само от резултатите. Аз искам да остана тук още много години.
– Прилагате ли тази максима и в отношенията си с вашите футболисти?
– Да. С тях също е важно да има отношения, базирани на уважение. Те трябва да знаят, че се опитваме да ги направим по-добри. Този ангажимент не е поставен в договорите, но е важен за успеха.
– Когато чувате и четете, че името Ви се свързва с Реал (Мадрид) за в бъдеще, какво мислите?
– Кара ме да се чувствам горд от моите футболисти, защото те са тези, които тичат, тези, които вкарват голове и които ги спасяват. Най-красивото, което ни се случва е, че треньорският щаб, футболистите и клубът, всички израстваме на една и съща скорост. Ние дойдохме от Саутхемптън. Играчи като Кейн, Деле Алли, Дайър… с всеки мач стават все по-зрели. Новият стадион. Потенциалът на Тотнъм все още не може да се премери. Това е въпрос на време и победи. Когато побеждаваш, всичко изглежда много по-ясно. Ще се нуждаем от победи, за да признаят хората, че Тотнъм не само знае да играе добре.
– Роналдо се бори за гола и понякога създава впечатление на известно безпокойство…
– Той е феномен. Получи наградата за най-добър футболист и истината е, че я заслужава. Освен неговите качества, той е пример за професионализъм. Това е важен урок за всички. Не се уморява да твърди, че тайната е в здравата работа, в поставянето на високи цели и в това да се грижиш за себе си. Всеки футболист трябва да прави това.
– Като Хари Кейн?
– По отношение на професионализъм много си приличат. Хари разбира, че трябва да работи, да става по-добър, за да постигне успех. Има много сходно мислене. Не познавам Кристиано добре, но от впечатленията, които имам, си приличат много.
– Защо вярвате в младите?
– Това е въпрос на характер, на личност. Това е и спокойствието, което се усеща при работата с тях. Когато показват, че могат да играят, им се доверяваме 100 процента.
– Националният отбор на Англия трябва да носи прякор Почетино?
– Ще обърна въпроса. Имах късмет да работя с много млади и талантливи играчи и ние им дадохме шанс да играят. Чувстваме се горди с всеки един от тях.
– Виждате ли способност да спечелите някакъв трофей този сезон?
– Ако не го вярвах, щеше да е невъзможно изобщо да имаме възможност за това. Вярвам до смърт, че Тотнъм има възможност да спечели нещо.
– Как определяте себе си във футбола?
– Аз съм аржентински играч и испански треньор. Учил съм се от всички градове и държави, в които съм работил. Децата ми са каталунци, от Еспаньол, и това ни отличава много.
Да побеждаваш с добра игра? Според мен да играеш добре означава да направиш, това, което искаш да направиш. Не съм аз този, който да каже еди коя си игра не струва или не е красива. Всички начини са приемливи тогава, когато правиш това, което искаш или смяташ, че е най-доброто за твоя отбор. Победата е всичко.
Автор: Хосе Феликс Диас, в. „Марка“
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